Excerpts from CNBC-TV18’s exclusive interview with J R Varma:
Q: What have you made of the broad framework set, both for short selling, stock lending and borrowing?
A: It is a very good idea that we are at last making progress on short selling. There are some parts of proposals, which are still very restrictive, primarily on position limits are too low. For example- the position limits at the client level is really says 1% of the marketwide limit, which means 0.1% of the free float that I think is extremely low.
Similarly, at the member level, it says 10% or 50 crore, whichever is lower. Now, on a company, which has Rs 1 lakh crore of marketcap, 50 crore is 0.05% or something.
So, some of those position limits have to be reviewed, especially those are extremely low. Of course, the document says to begin with, for example, it is limited currently to stocks, which are on the derivative segment. Hopefully, that would also get widened as we get along. But it is good to see that there is some progress in the end.
Q: Could you tell us about stock lending and borrowing mechanism as it stands currently, because the market really seems to be wanting to know more about the time it would take to settle contracts and the margins on which these contracts would be laid?
A: On that there is no clarity. It only says that there should be adequate risk management system. But I guess the exchanges have a lot of experience in margining derivative contracts. There are a lot of software, which can be readily reused for them. So, if the exchanges and the regulators want to make this happen, we should be looking at the timeline of maybe a couple of weeks or maybe three weeks. Within that timeframe, everything should be ready.
I think short sellers, the world over, are accustomed to pay stiff margin and the interest on the collateral deposited. So, that is not an issue, but it is now up to the exchanges to get out securities lending products.
Q: What is taking this process so long because we have been talking about it for a year and a half now?
A: I have always believed that in India much of the market manipulation takes place by the company promoters and by company managements themselves. For them, short selling is the most undesirable thing in the world.
So, I am sure that there is an enormous lobbying by corporate managements and corporate promoters to stop short selling and to make it as weak and restrictive as possible. Perhaps, the regulator is feeling that pressure as well. So, we need to keep the pressure up on the regulator, to ensure that they do not succumb to pressure from unscrupulous company managements, to make short selling unduly restrictive.
Q: What kind of a re-look do you think the position limits would require?
A: The position limit needs to be significantly enhanced, maybe something closer on the lines with what we have in the derivatives market and so on. We need significantly wider position limits.
Q: If this decision has to be implemented, do you think the timing at this point is most apt?
A: I am always of the view that the regulatory measures should not be tied to market timing. One cannot say that I will do the short selling, but the markets are going up or coming down and so on. These regulatory processes have a logic of their own. You are doing that not because one wants to change the direction in which the markets are going, but because one wants to improve price discovery in the market. Short selling is a mechanism through which one improves price discovery and anytime is a good time to do that.
Q: Currently, short selling is talking about addressing stocks in the F&O space. How would you read into an extension of this into the segments, which essentially comprise of non F&O stocks as well?
A: We should go there so long as you have proper risk containment that the short seller has to deposit appropriate margins. You should allow short selling in all scrips.
If somebody is bold enough to short and if the person is willing to deposit appropriate margins, I do not think the regulator should come in and say that you cannot short.
Short-selling provides much needed discipline to the market and much needed price discount discovery. In some ways, it is the less liquid stocks, where promoters rig up prices. It is there where the short seller’s power is even more useful. So, we should extend short selling across the board. But if the regulator wants to start with the derivative segment and then extend it, that is fine. But I would want to see short-selling on maybe a couple of 1,000 stocks within 3-6 months.
Q: What has your own analysis thrown up on post the P-note episode and whether or not registration has actually happened in the way expected?
A: My position at that time was that the restrictions, as they were finally put in place, would not make too much of a difference. That is what has happened. It has not made too much of a difference.